It turns out that writing tablets actually use both PDLCs and cholesteric liquid crystals in which polymers are dispersed in the cholesteric liquid crystal. It was good PR for MIT. The Timex contract was with the University. There were also new types of liquid crystal display technologies created that were commercialized. [Laugh] CRAWFORD: Did you see patenting as a way of kind of signaling that the Institute was moving into applied research?DOANE: No, I didn't see it from that point of view. I think that was primarily the attractiveness of it. It was horrible. That may have been what caught their attention. She had a master's degree from Boston University, and I think graduated magna cum laude, majoring in languages. An oral history interview with J. William Doane, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Emeritus Director of the Liquid Crystal Institute (LCI) at Kent State University, and Co-Founder and Senior Advisor at Kent Displays, Inc., in Kent, Ohio. And [the liquid crystal work] just died out. We haven't talked a lot about your approach to education and training students. At that time, I didn't think too much about job opportunities in cosmic-ray physics, although I should've been. They were on glass substrates as opposed to plastic. That was the discovery of polymer liquid crystal dispersions! Been here 5+ times. "DOANE: Jim Fergason was not involved in THEMIS research. But continuing that attitude didn't work when the materials began to be developed and their use became recognized. My parents were very supportive of that and helped me with it. Register or Buy Tickets, Price information. Please contact the. I just knew Jim was working on this stuff. I'm really an experimentalist as opposed to a theorist. The University wanted to license it, and I talked the University into letting me form a company around this. The competitive twist cell technology in Asia was getting better and better. I just told the dean I didn't know what I could do. Manhattan Regional Airport (MHK) is 11 minutes away by car. I thought I wanted to go into electrical engineering.CRAWFORD: Was it the problem-solving, working with your hands that attracted you to engineering?DOANE: I think so. In France, there was a large group at Orsay near Paris. But it did force them to really think about, "Is what I'm doing really relevant?" I didn't necessarily look at it as a way just to help my own research, although I could see that it would help to have other people around doing this. These don't have to be refreshed. I brought him to Kent to work on it in my lab. - City . He did that, and the experiment was a failure because the liquid crystal mixed with the epoxy. Or were you also learning more generally about the properties of matter and molecules?DOANE: The physical and chemical properties of liquid crystals, their molecular makeup, their unusual properties and how they fit as states of matter between solids and liquids. There are 2 Retail spaces available for lease at 390 Ernest W Barrett Pkwy, Kennesaw, GA, 30144, totaling 3,419 SF. But they did. CRAWFORD: Would you say your ability to win grants and contracts was a kind of expertise?DOANE: Yes, that was an expertise. Do you want to talk with a If you lower the voltage of the pulse to another certain level, it will turn to the other texture for the background. But anyway, Jim ran into materials issues. Liquid Crystal Oral History ProjectDepartment of HistoryKent State University, Transcript produced by Sharp Copy Transcription. Originally moving into the space between physics and chemistry was essential in getting the ALCOM Center. In the early 80s, there was a lot of work going on not only at Kent, but all over the world. Town Center at Cobb is now one of more than 50 shopping malls in the U.S. owned by Kohan, which is based in Great Neck, New York. I don't know how it is these days, but back in those days, if you were going to have a graduate program, the faculty had to bring in the money to do it. Incidentally, we've already started a company, we already know how to make windows. I didn't know of anybody else at Kent who had done this sort of thing, spinning off technology from the University. After ALCOM, the new building was needed as the program had grown substantially. I also met McGrath, and they invited me to visit Kent. [Laugh] I happened to wander by this one room, and I looked in there, and it was just full of electronics. Actually, I started KDI in 93 before I even retired. Everybody was from industry. Nearby cities and villages : Corbelin, Granieu and Brgnier-Cordon. But I got to know Lowell Heinke well in later years, and he was telling me that it was a very difficult lawsuit. Request More Information. Atlanta-based Preferred Apartment Communities (NYSE: APTS). I was born in the sandhills of Western Nebraska, out in the country in a sod house, built by my father. But I didn't really do too much because it's primarily coursework. But I did follow what Asad did for the company during the pandemic, and I thought he did a fine job. I wonder if you could say a little bit about the nature of the problem, that he didnt have a PhD. You mentioned Al Green was the CEO and Asad was the CTO.DOANE: At first, I had no involvement in the company at all because I was directing the LCI. I don't know how Fergason envisioned the Institute, but I do know that it wasn't like Glenn envisioned it. I had so many publications, I didn't need to worry about publications for a tenure promotion or anything. I didn't find it a great business for Kent State University. I wanted to see that technology get into the US economy in some way. The Retail building features a total of 24,497 SF. It turned out, the annual national meeting that year was in Kansas City. It needed to focus its research. You can't have any dust particles around. She was wanting to start a family, and we thought we could do that, even while I was in graduate school. Either I did it, or nobody did it, so I decided to do it. It was a form of technology transfer. DOANE: Yes. Being at a small grade school, I really was not exposed to that much science. Paris. But contributing to the war effort had little to do with it. After they were discovered in 1888 or so, in the 1930s, there was some very good work done in Germany by several people. CRAWFORD: Were they relatively small departments?DOANE: Physics was smaller than chemistry, but both of them were relatively small. [If you apply an electrical pulse to it at a certain voltage level it will go to the color reflective texture. John West was very helpful on all of that stuff. I do remember Tektronix because I was surprised they did that. [And I wanted to get Alfred Saupe, Adriaan De Vries , who was doing X-rays, Mary Neubert, a synthetic chemist and others at the Institute, into the programs at the research campus and more involved with the department faculty]. DOANE: I never viewed myself as a pioneer. [Laugh] And he did. As a graduate student, when I got into nuclear magnetic resonance, I had a research assistantship while I was working on my PhD, and that was funded with a grant. But I guess I'm wondering if some of this work on applicationslike you said, Fergason just wanted to make a watch face. They were able to get funding on some bill that was going through. Over the years, I've directed something like 25 doctoral dissertations, and I don't know how many master's students. Samsung in Korea does it today on 60-inch and larger screens. He started a conversation with me. I followed through with the interview but I just liked it at Kent. Brokerage Services Provided by U.S. Condo Exchange, LLC & U.S. Condo Exchange, Inc. But the university can have ownership of patents that industry needs. CRAWFORD: Is there anything else particular about Northeast Ohio that's advantageous for companies?DOANE: Well, it's just a nice place to live. CRAWFORD: You mentioned you'd seen their names in the literature. For example, there was a group (or perhaps groups) taking commercial high resolution flat panel displays apart and reconfiguring them to make them more rugged for aircraft and other applications. Geographic Information regarding City of Les Avenires Veyrins-Thuellin. Anyway, during this time, I got to know people working in this field and got to become acquainted with some of these researchers and find out what they were doing and so on. They'd come here, we'd go there, we'd meet in various places, help one another with various projects. I knew he was going to really quiz me about my research because he would want to know how I was going to fund it and that stuff. I was really excited about that. ]CRAWFORD: And that's important because that's a ubiquitous technology. He wanted it to be apart from the research campus, but for the research to be very basic. These students went into industry in places like Microsoft, Apple, Google etc. And to give the University some visibility, and give the faculty visibility so they could get grants and stuff. But the champion ended up being Japan. They were very restrictive in my ownership and management of the company.CRAWFORD: Did they explain why?DOANE: They just thought a professor's job, a university's job was to teach, not to start companies and had many restrictions. In this case, the university licenses the patents generated by faculty and students back to them to start a company. They had this program, but they needed a proposal in just a few weeks. I think that's what I learned from it. [Laugh]CRAWFORD: Trying to build a community, then.DOANE: Yeah. Its called that because it can be found in the cholesterol of living systems. There are alignment layers, retardation films, liquid crystal materials where significant contributions are made. [Laugh] Strung my antennas and so on. I'm glad you're talking to other people, not just me, and really getting a good handle on what actually happened. In the early 80s, Glenn became very ill with Parkinson's. Nobody knew who he was because he was never there. [Laugh] I worked with him as an undergraduate, building his electronics, and I became very familiar with the kind of stuff he was doing. It's great PR for the university to develop new technology. CRAWFORD: Why do you say that?DOANE: Because usually, that's where the opportunity is. Time zone of Les Avenires Veyrins-Thuellin. You had talked about how part of moving into that space between physics and chemistry was to encourage interactions and stuff.DOANE: It was golden. For example, without that, I probably couldn't even have convinced Rudy Butler to build this building and centralize the effort on the research campus. Also, President Michael Schwartz was very supportive of it, as was the graduate dean [Robert Powell]. There were no doubt other faculty involved that I may have overlooked. I thought it was a way to build the graduate programs. Win over prospective landlords with your smart budgeting. Somehow, I just thought it was important for our program to do that. Further electrical engineers at Akron or Case did not have that expertise or interest. It got us into the display world. I had a friend at MIT who told me that was what they liked to do at MIT, get faculty, post-docs, and students to be entrepreneurs to spin off the technology. At that time, the liquid crystals were unstable and would decompose over time. [Laugh] [I am sure, however, there are some examples where it has paid off. In regard to the American Society of Patent Holders, Goodyear was involved. CRAWFORD: Was this started in 1991?DOANE: I think it was awarded in 1991. In fact, this company has received funds from the state of Ohio. I'm curious if you think it still applies today. CRAWFORD: Was there a sense at that time in the late 60s and the 70s, was there a sense that academic science was a different world than industrial science?DOANE: Yes. Before, I was just working as a physics faculty member. CRAWFORD: Looking back on your career in science, we can see, just from this conversation, that being a scientist involves much more than just working at a lab bench or working with NMR technologies. One, he filled with Jim Fergason. There was enough space between there that we could sandwich a small building and put together a number of research labs.CRAWFORD: I've heard about this building, and I can appreciate the practicality of being between physics and chemistry, but also the metaphorical meaning of it of liquid crystals as kind of a substance in the space between physics and chemistry. He said, "Well, I wonder if you'd like to work with me and help me. Probably within a year, we were selling signs. I thought maybe if I did, I'd have to take these candidacy exams over again, and I didn't want to do that. The physics behind it isnt so simple, but it's a simple device and useful device as a paper replacement that can be reused. That was really what the objective of ALCOM was, to make a connection between basic research and the economy. Then, in RCA, there was a group. But without that, I dont know what wouldve happened to the Institute. Are there other benefits to the interactions between universities and spinoff companies? This not only includes your local university, but other universities and small colleges. My focus changed later toward applications of liquid crystals, but that was it at that time. I need a softball player." She'd recall these numbers easily as she was a superb manager.CRAWFORD: What did this mean in terms of the research agenda, either for your group or the Institute as a whole? But it was clear that it wasn't going to be a very big business, and I wasn't sure that Bill Manning would ever get that much enjoyment out of signs. But they did not, just a small amount of royalties. But my wife was very good at handling things by herself. CRAWFORD: It sounds like you're saying it's partly a cultural thing.DOANE: Yes. ]CRAWFORD: Do you think it would've been better for the field of liquid crystal science if there had been more interaction between industry and academia?DOANE: It would've been better for Kent, I can tell you that. CRAWFORD: It sounds like your basic research at the molecular level was around understanding the structure and fluctuations of liquid crystals.DOANE: [In my own research group we studied how the molecules ordered, moved, wiggled, diffused, and how these features changed from one liquid crystal phase to another. We wouldn't have cell phones with displays, flat TV screens, interactive wrist watches etc. I'd become acquainted with an investor, William (Bill) Manning who was on this board, a money manager from Rochester, New York. Back then, I had a little problem with the State of Ohio. You mentioned using LCI facilities, but were there other interactions?DOANE: [We still use institute facilities at Kent State today as well as facilities of other universities in the area.] Why did you decide to pursue a patent on these things?DOANE: I could see that they had value. Where do you think that comes from for you?DOANE: I don't know. Is it the case that they had seen what the Japanese were doing with displays and came to the American scientific community asking them to develop something like that for them? But I think when I look around the country, it's had some good and some bad points. I wanted the physics department and Kent State University to have something they could hang their hats on. Bravo aux quipes pour ce nouveau projet. That wasn't in my interest at all. CRAWFORD: Some work that was field-specific was important for the field, then the polymer dispersion had broader recognition.DOANE: [I was amazed at how it caught on scientifically in the field of liquid crystal research. After I finished that, the Army discovered that I and one other guy in this class were physicists, and they said they needed communications officers. The dispersed polymers are necessary to control the width of the written line. Could you tell us what that stands for?DOANE: Yes. It's a very low-powered device.DOANE: The Boogie Board takes no power to write on it. More This chemical physics program was still on the books, but nobody was using it anymore. I looked at several people before I went to Bill Manning. If I had something like you proposed the other day, where the institute was off campus, apart from the University, it would've been something I might've been able to deal with a lot more easily. But back then, for that situation at that time, me being in academia, in the physics department, and there being a big desire to understand the fundamental properties of liquid crystals, it was important to collect liquid crystal research on the research campus at KSU to help the faculty involved. One, you can have meetings, exchange ideas and give lectures back and forth. The International Liquid Crystal Conferences initiated by Glenn Brown were now being held in places like Berlin Germany and other foreign countries. The liquid crystal institute as a center for the research began to lose its importance and value. But as soon as I retired, I joined the company as CTO for a while. CRAWFORD: You talked a lot about your work building a program at Kent State. Prices and availability are subject to change without notice. That was my focus at that time. I just did what I thought ought to be done. [Laugh] I wasnt aware of it and glad you brought this to my attention.CRAWFORD: That seems a fair characterization? If it didn't have that film on it, you could only see it if you were looking directly at it. When Jim's company began to fail, Hoffmann-La Roche wanted to buy the patent from him. I didn't view it as that at all. Fergason got interested in display development. the setup: grab your own pill bottle fill it with water and maybe a tinge of vodka to get that alcohol smell. 1 hour from Topeka. There was even some interest in Europe, and here was some licensing there, too. It's actually a nice piece because he put his phone number in there and said, "Anyone who has questions, give me a call." Bahman Taheri founded one of them, Alpha Micron, Inc.. That was one reason. As I understand Phil, this display technology you're looking at right there on your cell phone is from one of our students.CRAWFORD: For the audio, you're showing me an Apple iPhone. Not very long after I started this company, they removed them. [End Part 1][Start Part 2]MATTHEW CRAWFORD: My name is Matthew Crawford. And the governor came. I just wanted to be from a place that people recognized. It's a very complex issue. Close to schools (KSU), shopping, mall (Town Center at Cobb), & interstates. I recall one at IBM with Malcolm Thompson and another group in Troy, Michigan, Optical Imaging Systems, for developing and manufacturing high resolution flat-panel screens. My father, in order to afford to send them to high school and college, started a little filling station that developed into a country store. DOANE: Yeah, it was, but my focus changed to the company because I really wanted this company to survive and do well. But that was really my only relation to science. I just happened to see the right people at the right time. I talked to Heinke once about this. Information on the people and the population of Les Avenires Veyrins-Thuellin. We were surprised to see this result. Good morning, Dr. Doane. It was bistable, so we could make low-power, full color reflective displays. Well, I talked to Shirley, and we didn't know that we could really afford to move down there. I wanted to stay here. That's perfect. But we were told why we were not awarded, because we were doing work with polymers, yet we had no polymer program. It was important to me that this company, the first spin-off formed, turn into something. Nobody had done this before. [Start Part 1]MATTHEW CRAWFORD: My name is Matthew Crawford. DOANE: The early 70s, of course, is when the THEMIS grant was going. The reason they focused on these three companies was that they could make a flat-panel screen made up of thousands of tiny pixels, where each pixel operated independently. DOANE: Yeah. The physics department was very small, and the only way you could get a doctoral program was to do something with chemistry, so they created this graduate program in Chemical Physics. You have to give it to Jim, he really understood the value of this twist cell technology. With regard to displays, there was one thing we did not have a program in was the active matrix. Shirley went with me. [Laugh] There are all sorts of enticements. At that time, I wasn't interested in doing applications or patenting. Being a scientist isn't just science. Immediately after we started Kent Displays, Inc., other faculty, students and postdocs got the message and said, "Maybe we should do this." Have a facility there based on what Glenn had started. For Sale 2937 Governors Court, Marietta, GA 30066. It strikes me asyou've talked about how those kind of relationships were challenging, the relationships between academia and industry, and so forth. I didn't know it at the time, but I think the biggest discovery for me was the polymer dispersion. The attitude in industry for commercializing the technology ultimately was just not there. DARPA primarily, but also the Navy and other agencies, the Army, started funding display research. It's a much broader area of physics. ]CRAWFORD: I would imagine as a company, it's beneficial to have students, both undergraduates and graduates, who can come here and work that you know have experience in physics.DOANE: Particularly experience in liquid crystals. It was focused on basic research, and it was a lot of money. Why did you decide to retire?DOANE: Several reasons. There was Fergason's work at Westinghouse. There was Dave Johnson in the physics department, who was doing very nice work on calorimetry, the thermodynamics of liquid crystals. Why don't we pause for now? I just wanted to ask if you could say a bit more. You license a technology, and within a short while, sometimes within a year, the company you've licensed it to has already further developed technology and written patents around it, then they're back knocking on the door, negotiating for reduced payments. It was a big effort for that time.CRAWFORD: Did that include what Akron and Case were doing?DOANE: These were our expenditures in Kent. I guess towards the late 80s, these programs became available. Under federal law, housing and employment discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity is unlawful. We had contracts from the Navy, DARPA, the state of Ohio, and so on. In the case of student dissertations, it is necessary to publish. You have to be able to see how you fit in and how you can contribute. I thought it would've been a marvelous thing for the city of Kent and for Kent State University and even the country to have really capitalized upon this opportunity. I think the University gave him a lot of support to start this program. I played around with that, though I never could get it to work very well. I didn't think we had a chance in hell of getting this thing because it was thrown together so fast. That was my first inclination that I liked this kind of thing. We were able to get substantial DARPA support for things. I really prepared for that. Newly updated with Stainless Steel Appliances, Flooring with Luxury Vinyl Planks and Tile, Stainless Steel Sink, New Lighting, Tile shower in the master. DOANE: Yes, it is great for that. Do you have any sense of what was driving that change or what has driven the change from this vision Brown expressed?DOANE: I'm not sure it was actually ever really feasible. The company licenses it to him, and he's still working on that, developing it further. Cookie Notice That was my biggest trouble, finding investment.CRAWFORD: Was it difficult to find venture capitalists here? Was it a problem for him or for the University?DOANE: I think it was a problem for him [as he was not interested in academia]. ALCOM was to combine science and technology where applications are important. Basic research on liquid crystals at Kent was disconnected as the Institute was not on the research campus, there was no applied research whatsoever. But it's different now. I was never actually called upon by Heinke to be a witness. Crises aren't always that bad in the sense that they can move things along and force people to look at other ways. He had worked on cholesteric liquid crystals as a graduate student in Hawaii. Also, I needed to convince the University to do it, too, because the University enjoyed making money off of licensing. DOANE: First of all, investment. It needed a champion to get industry deeply involved. [Laugh] That was a huge effort, the first time I ever worked with other universities, and I learned the issues with that. I would say that was how I got into it. I think this is the only example I know of where this has happened, where two different countries have a different patent ownership. If you have a joint development, you determine who owns it and who doesnt, this kind of thing. As a result the company became focused on writing.CRAWFORD: Before the shift to the Boogie Board, you mentioned that the company was making signs and had some contracts in Israel and whatnot. One texture reflects a beautiful colored light. The liquid crystal display technology during that period began to take off. WILLIAM DOANE: Well, thank you for inviting me.CRAWFORD: My pleasure. Universities tend to value fundamental or basic research as it is something they can publish. Find below the times of sunrise and sunset calculated 7 days to Les Avenires Veyrins-Thuellin. I'm interviewing Dr. J. William Doane, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Emeritus Director of the Liquid Crystal Institute at Kent State University, as well as Co-Founder and Senior Advisor at Kent Displays. Glenn learned that he wanted to immigrate, and Glenn wanted to see if he could get him. There was a lot of work going on in Germany. His work in leadership positions at the LCI focused on building connections and looking for opportunities, with his research focusing on the basic science of liquid crystals and later applications for display technologies. Before noon on the day it was launched, Amazon was calling up and wanting more. That's another big story. We wouldnt have had such good displays on our cell phones if it wasnt for this Institute. Minutes from KSU, Town Center Mall, and all Major Dining. From 1991-1996, Doane also served as the first Director of the Center Advanced Liquid Crystalline Optical Materials (ALCOM), an NSF-funded Science and Technology Center that included collaborations with University of Akron and Case Western Reserve University. [Laugh] But as a retiree, I've been one of the least affected. [Laugh] While liquid crystals could get that feature, it had a very short temperature range. I was further able to convince them, because Kent Displays was very small and didn't have much of an R&D unit, to let us use their facilities, at a cost, of course, to develop the technology further. I thought, "I'm going to see if I can get the administration to let me use this program in the Institute." CRAWFORD: When he did talk about applications, it was mostly in cancer detection work with breast cancer and so forth, and less about the work on displays and stuff. CRAWFORD: I've been reading Brown's papers and looking at the early annual reports from what it sounds like, from what he was writing and putting in the reports at the time, he really saw the primary focus of the Institute as studying the structure of liquid crystals. Phil Bos, for example, was in the chemical physics program, but now he's in physics. Theoretically, you could, but practically, there were lots of problems in doing that. Not long after he started, he began telling them about these polymer dispersions, and General Motors got very interested in these things for automobile applications. As it turns out, there are a number different ways you can make a display with a liquid crystal. I think from the point of view of guiding me later, this did it. In the summer of '67, my wife and I took our summer vacation, and we went back home to visit our parents. Things like the Bayh-Dole Act got the state to start thinking differently. [Laugh] We put this together, and we got up to the point where NSF said they wanted to make a site visit. Tenant will be out by mid May. He was going to give a paper on liquid crystals as temperature sensors.CRAWFORD: This was the year you finished your PhD?DOANE: Yes, either '64 or '65. It wasn't just because of this that it wound up in Japan, Kent was only a small part of the problem. In my view, if Kent was going to really build graduate programs, it needed to focus somehow. With that, I got the institute into a program with the University of Southern California. CRAWFORD: What do you think this kind of valuing of certain types of research over the others? I had to hire electrical engineers [or use the electrical expertise we had in-house to create drive electronics for a new technology].CRAWFORD: It sounds like part of the impact of ALCOM, in addition to growing the LCI, was orienting the Institute more towards displays, and it sounds like you were doing a lot more than just liquid crystals.DOANE: Yeah. That was very attractive to them, too. The liquid crystal display is a major part of it. In '65, when I was interviewing for the positions, there was already some work going on here and there around the country. Were there other types of interactions, people moving back and forth?DOANE: Oh, yes. $269,900. First, I wanted to start spin-off companies. This was a prime incentive in forming Kent Displays.This new reflective technology came about when early on, the Xerox group was working on things called cholesteric liquid crystals. There were a number of things we could make on it. 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