I can't wait until my set arrives. The earlier runs of Rivarossi locos have the pizza cutter flanges that will not run on any track smaller than code 100 (the track that comes with trainsets). As far as the Sleepers, Diners and Observations, I could be wrong, but I believe that the 60' passenger cars were more commuter and branch line use, where you wouldn't see Sleepers, Diners and Observations, like you would on a mainline passenger train. In addition to Rivarossi, there's a company embarking on Boston & Maine 60/66 foot Coaches, and Combines in Resin. You can go with Train Station Products trucks for your Rivarossi units. The Rivarossi 60's are Clerestory roofed Heavy weights, not the round roofed, at least all mine are. Guess I'll stick with the Rivarossi's. ModelRailroadForums.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com. As mentioned earlier, these were produced by American manufacturer Athearn and remained in the catalog until 1963. The cars are brand new old stock. It was a mixture of lamp black (carbon) and YELLOW. You will find locals passing through Wisconsin with those headend cars and the coaches. I bought a set from the same vendor a couple of weeks ago. Off the top of my head, the RPO is a match or near-match for RPOs that the C&O and the Wabash used, and I /think/ the B&O, Southern and L&N. Two new Union Pacific streamlined passenger cars of the 1950s have been released by Rivarossi. Most of the Horizon stuff I've seen in the Athearn name is RTR and IMO, Overpriced. Many railroads used these cars or similar ones from the 1900's well into the diesel era. Cycling. Many railroads used multiple colors, or types of paint on the same car.The GN, for example, in heavyweight days seems to have used 'pullmangreen' for the sides of the cars, and 'dark green truck enamel'(whatever THAT was) for the underbody and trucks. Don't know which one you are talking about. They came without lights but they did have empty rows of seats. Ho RIVAROSSI 4-6-2 " Light Pacific" C.B.&Q #462 BURLINGTON ROUTE Nice! Also if more road names are forthcoming. Enjoy your new engine. I have an old NYC Hudson that runs great and will also run on code 83 track after I turned down the flanges with my dremel and stone wheel. i'm a big kid right now.. going to open them up and get some pics. 4) Do you plan to run those four cars together in one train or split them up between two or three trainsand then addother brands of passenger cars with truck or body mount couplers to make up a train or two or three of eight cars eachmore or less? Rivarossi - German Passenger Coach ICE-T Set Class 415 of the DB. Rivarossi presents the iconic Pullman 60 ft passenger cars that ran for many decades all over the country being pulled by early diesels and steam locomotives from the 1920s through the early 1950s. The assembled structure measures 5. Excellent. The MDC/Harriman cars are 60' cars with truck-mounted couplers which will allow them to run on 18"R curves. I used Kadee 36" wheels to replace the original ones, but you'll need to trim a little material off the brake shoes on the outboard ends of the trucks, in order to allow the replacement wheels to turn freely.There have been comments from some modellers complaining about incorrect proportions of the cars' clerestory roofs, and other minor issues, but they're not things which bother me.Kadee sells coupler conversion kits specifically for the Rivarossi cars, if you're planning to use truck-mounted couplers. I just wanted to know how these cars are. It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. While the cars do have some fairly decent underbody details, I usually add more details there, too. On the cars pictured below I replaced the stock Rivarossi "Pizza Cutter" wheels with Proto 2000 36" wheel sets. PRR had so much stuffthere may be some hope there. Espee used dark olive which was not Pullman green. I weakened and bought a boat tail observation car because it was cool, not because the B&M ever owned one. I am looking at getting a four car set of rivarossi heavyweight passenger cars in GN livery. Where I disagree is that their diesels weren't any good. By todays standards they . Sounds good; however that does mean most of the replies you got don't apply since they're referencing the 'old' Rivarossi cars from the 1960's-1990's. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners. On some trucks you had to shave a little off the brake shoes. cars. Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Passenger Cars, Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Steam Locomotives . If anyone has some good ideas on how to upgrade these passenger cars I'd appreciate it. The new Rivarossi cars appear to be based on the same C&NW prototypes as the old Walthers cars - full RPOs in the 9413-33 series, baggage cars in various 87xx series, combines in various batches in the 74xx series, and coaches in several groups numbered between 3088 and 3306 (the photos and car listing indicate Rivarossi used accurate numbers on the C&NW cars). I replaced the original wheels, which I think are 31", with nominally correct 36" wheels from Kadee. I also have 83 passenger cars. Before the latest "era" in model railroading, Rivarossi "Red Box" steamers were about as good as one could get. it all worked out well with the smaller wheels. Although all four Riv 60' cars are based on real 60' long cars, the RPO and Baggage cars were much more common at that length. Here's a quick unboxing and review of the Rivarossi 60'. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. Yes, but even 'pullman green' varied with era, railroad, and weathering. The same guy (Bernard Paul) was involved in both, but the products were not the same. ), it's going to be a lot easier to make up some decent-looking typical heavyweight consists that don't look as much like a boxed set. Rivarossi The company was founded in 1945 in Como, Italy by Alessandro Rossi. What's WORSE, paint formula records indicate that real 'pullman green'wasn't GREEN at all. 30+ years later, I still have all of them in my fleet, now in their 4th or 5th upgrade cycle. It did require shaving away some of the cast on brake shoes but with care you can shave away enough to retain the "look" of the shoes yet let the wheels turn freely. They seem to be a bit scarce now that Walthers doesn't stock them. Originally 7247, 7248 and 7240 of 7240-7249 series. I believe Chicago Northwestern prototype. O SCALE AHM RIVAROSSI 4 CAR BOXED PASSENGER CAR SET-C-9-used-Original Boxes! I'm looking forward to these cars, specifically the RPO and the baggage. IMHO, mid-grade. There is, of course, the possibility of running non-home-road equipment in many trains, especially sleepers and head-end equipment. . Rivarossi HO #2882 1920 Pullman -Southern Pacific Night Fern RTR NIB! Are other than coach cars forthcoming? Detail is decent even by today's standards. One of the baggage rpo cars and the duplex sleeper were definitely PRR. If your layout has fairly wide curves, you can also use body-mounted couplers. Many older CB&Qhead end cars were repainted an aluminum color in the 50's and 60's so theywould not stand out so prominently when run in trains of fluted-sidestainless steel cars. Thought I'd help the grandnephew with his new layout. There is a newer set of 4 cars that are 60' long. I did manage to get replacement axles from Kadee, I changed the majority of my Pullman cars into coaches, as my freelanced road is too short to need sleepers(click on the photos for a larger image). . $60.00 + $17.00 shipping. Just remember they are old technology so don't over pay for one. Top Rated Plus. Con-Cor and Rivarossi may well get away with 18". HO Scale Riverossi Passenger Car LED Lighting Installation with "Floating Brass" pickups.www.modeltrainman.comwww.modeltraintechnology.com The Athearn cars can be a little hit and miss, sometimes they're in production, sometimes not!! VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Anxiously waiting. Baggage 60 foot Harriman arch roof: 6029 - Pullman-built 1909 for O&C 6025-6034 series. It is my intention to run these coaches primarily on the mainline track but will on occasion need to divert them to the local track. Living the dream and happily modeling my STRATTON AND GILLETTE Railroad in HO scale. + $5.60 shipping. The Rivarossi RPO's are 60-footers. The GN buffs are still squabbling over these details. has body mount couplers. For years, the BB kits were a staple of the hobby and I think it's a shame the line has been let go. HO Scale AHM/Rivarossi, IHC Passenger cars in box. To my knowledge, neither the ATSF or CB&Q used 60' heavyweight combines or coaches. 2) ''Modern'' or''OldTime''passenger cars? If you have Rivarossi's 60' Baggage RPO car, THAT one I used Jaybee 110 or 111 coupler pads, Jaybee 36" wheels, and Kaydee #38 couplers were perfect.. A Line weight's brought it to 3 3/4oz. I also have A PRR GG1 (sold by AHM) and even though it is only single truck drive and underpowered, again with the large flanges it runs very well. I do have Bachman and Proto 72-foot RPO's, but most are 70' and shorter. This product has been discontinued by the manufacturer and is limited to the quantity on hand. Excellent. That shop sounds like my kind of place. . The cars with passenger windows have interior details. since i could adjust the coupler height as i went. Shop from top railroading brands like Centralia Car Shops, Bachmann, Walthers, and Lionel. I did remove some of the excess weight, but will be replacing the trucks with ones from Walthers, and will likely re-up the weights. They come with basic interiors, and I've seen three car sets (baggage, 2 coaches) available NIB in the local LHS recently, $50 give or take. Its a Red Box 4-8-8-2 cab forward. This was a problem as the needlepoint axle ends wore into the soft plastic truck sideframes. Too bad they're not running undecs (yet?) I've since replaced them with KDs. I have a trio of 2-8-8-2 Mallets. By todays standards they are average. This example shows the very old wheel design used by Rivarossi. I appreciate any info. I eagerly await their arrival. Apr 15, 2023 10:00 AM EDT. On the 22" line and they ran through a number of turnouts fine both forward and backward. They are decent looking although not prototypical. All the replacement axles I've tried are too tight and introduce significant friction. I ended up pulling up the curve and fixing it. Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. They are advertised to handle 18 inch curves, and they do. Maybe I'l try new wheels and go from there. Typically RPO and Baggage cars were shorter than regular passenger cars. "I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!". There were later runs where the wheelsets improved but I still replaced these with Kadee wheels. * Era starts with repaint to Tri-Color scheme and ends with Amtrak, if not sooner. You might find a few wood passenger cars in the thirties/forties but it would be very rare. A few photos(photos will enlarge if clicked upon). Rivarossi was an Italian model train company founded by Allessandro Rossi and Antonio Riva in 1945 in Como, Italy. The dealer claims they can run on 18 inch radius. These HO scale cars can run on a radius as small as 18 inches allowing them to run on compact layouts. The newer sets of the 60' cars are of higher quality. But even in the late 50's and early 60's, I remembera couple Q steam fan trips where they were still able to assemble a completegreen heavyweight train - my few photos from those trips where my "peoplefilter" was really working look just like old Lucius Beebe steam portraits.GQ. It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. Should I look for metal ones made by IHC or are there other suitable, less expensive options. Free delivery for many products! The so called "Empire Builder" green on the GNwas of this nature. Premier Name trains got the pretty paint. I have been having trouble with Con-Cor horn-hook couplers. JavaScript is disabled. They are generic designs and not specific to any the prototype. Thank goodness I was home to see your post right away. There were also 60 ft heavyweight sets packaged in both the Walthers and Rivarossi labels, the 60' cars came in a wide variety of railroad names as well. Everyday trains got Pullman Green.> /Partly/ because that green was the official color for Pullman which owned> and operated most sleeping cars until after WWII. I'll just add that a few years back I modified my Rivarossi Budds with metal wheels and filled the cavities in the underframe with BB pellets which were covered with glue. Close, maybe, Really correct, no. Rivarossi 60' RPO car. Fortunately, it appears that the Kato and Con-corcorrugated Budd cars are all prototypical, but only the slumbercoachis an identical car common to both lines. While I have deep-sixed most of the remaining Rivarossi in exchange for Walthers, Rapido, and BLI, I still have a few cars. The RPOs and baggage cars were more ubiquitous and are probably like cars rostered by ATSF and CB&Q. I'm trying to avoid modifying how the truck attaches to the frame. Until the 7 day preview for this item ends on April 21, it can be purchased exclusively by shoppers with a Private Car Premium Membership. A railroad had to be> mighty big to get Pullman to specially paint Pullman cars for a specific> train. Even with interiors they need additional weight to bring them up to standards. These cars have body mounted couplers and will in my experience have trouble with curves below 24" radius. Buyer's Premium 15% Lot 0232 Details. Starter Sets & Gift Sets . I also seem to recall that the observation car may have been a business car. I was lucky enough to obtain a couple of sets of Rivarossi passenger cars from there last year of production. They can easily be upgraded with wire grab irons. The Set A and Set B are OK cars. They appear to be updates of the 40 year old Walthers metal-sided "Shorty" passenger cars. Reg Price: $60.99. Fetters and Alco worked together to develop . I think Rivarossi even captured the blanked out windows of the original. Underbody detail is cast in place, so upgrading that is harder, but hopefully you'll not be viewing them belly-up too often! PremierName trains got the pretty paint. On every one I replaced the wheelsets with 33" Kadee wheels. I made a mistake. Pre-owned. Free shipping for many products! Add Quote. 3. The two windows flanking the baggage door were taken from Athearn coaches Rivarossi also offered a combine, but it had only three windows on each side, near the car's end (the prototype was used as a "rider car", at the rear of a baggage/express train). (BTW I believe the Athearn ones are 63' and 67' respectively.) I made bronze axle wipers to pick up juice. Thanks. 00 and the Y6b retailed for $29. This is Rivarossi's postal/express baggage car, altered a bit to better ressemble a CNR prototype. The sets were in 2 different 4 car sets, the sets had kaydee type couplers, sprung metal wheel sets, were also weighted and had interior finish and lighting as well. There's one for the heavyweight cars with 6-wheel trucks and another for the lightweight car's with four-wheel trucks. The set consists of a coach, combine, RPO, and baggage. The first would be the set A and set B, that are full length cars of the AHM era type. About the only time they have been on the ground that I know of is when someone (not me) backed them through a closed turnout,OOOPPSSS. Bought my set from Walthers 18 months ago, "limited quantity" etc, but no problems, they arrived in short order and good shape. So the first and biggest question is 1) Do they stay on the rails now? bear in mind these are the ones made several decades ago and things may have changed since then. Here is a link showing Walther's Rivarossi stock of passenger cars. Shop . Picture . Walthers Mainline is ranked #1 out of 12 ho scale model train passenger cars manufacturers, followed by Bachmann, and Rapido Trains Inc.. Products of HO Scale Model Train Passenger Cars 1-20 of 600 Sort by: Popularity 1860-1880 Coach Painted Unlettered Free shipping for many products! In general they aren't as good as current Bachmann and previous Bachmann Spectrum cars. So many choices but so little time. They've been sold under several names since, including Rivarossi. Their passenger cars are decent though. Deutsche Bahn, RhB, SBB, und BB Modelleisenbahn, http://www.modeltrainforum.com/showthread.php?t=22525. The wood coaches would not be out of place if you are modeling the '30's-40's. HO Rivarossi MISSOURI PACIFIC COLORADO EAGLE OBS SHRINE TOWER Passenger Car IOB. though, not exact replicas, they do make a decent looking train. To my knowledge, neither the ATSF or CB&Q used 60' heavyweight combines orcoaches. Mike. The GN buffs are still squabbling over these details. In stock : Ships in 1 Business Day! Appreciate it.. I will send you a PM. . There were short mail cars and combines but few if any short coaches. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. There is, of course, the possibility of running non-home-road equipmentin many trains, especially sleepers and head-end equipment. been hittin' the bottle a little hard lately? There is a newer set of 4 cars that are 60' long. rare N Scale Rivarossi the Alton Limited 6-car passenger set 9584 - 9589 train. Started by patzwaldb, February 21, 2009, 02:19:16 PM. I don't use diaphragms, and they didn't come with any. One baggage, one RPO, one combine and one coach. Can anyone comment about Rivarossi passenger cars? You have to go to theHorizonwebsite to find what's available. Most of them are rivarossi. Thank you. 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Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Rivarossi HO RTR Southern Pacific Heavyweight 4-Car Set, Used, VG at the best online prices at eBay! But it did take on a greenish cast under some weathering and lighting conditions. I also added metal wheels. A railroad had to bemighty big to get Pullman to specially paint Pullman cars for a specifictrain. However, if you prefer to keep the factor Rivarossi trucks, metal wheel replacements seem to work fine on them. I field tested this set with a Spectrum 4-4-0 on 18" EZ track. I've searched for replacement trucks but don't know what to look for. $21.50 + $17.70 shipping. 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SO tomorrow I am picking up a Rivarossi 2-8-8-4. well from what i have seen very nice engines.had a few that were nice before i sold them on ebay. The Proto Budd RPO is 65'. HO SCALE RIVAROSSI GULF MOBILE & OHIO PASSENGER CAR LOT OF (5) RARE!READ! I am looking to replace the horn and hook couplers that are on the IHC carswith Are the Kato and ConCor Union Pacific passenger cars the same colors? I looked at these cars with interest. I used Kadee 33" wheel sets. Once there was a time when about 90% of my passenger fleet was the Rivarossi-made, imported by AHM, cars. See my web sites for my real address. High quality? Perfect for the tight curves on my branchline. But today is a Gift, that is why it is called the Present. I do think that you will be very Happy with these, I like mine very much. I bought Walthers lighting kits, which included new trucks with metal wireframes. About that time, four 60' heavyweight cars (RPO, Baggage, Combine, Coach) all based on CNW prototypes came out. Skip to product information. First(and only)place on the right. Unless you can nail it down to ONE car on ONE day you'll go NUTS tyingto create 'generic' colors like 'pullman green' that work for allrailroads in all eras and circumstances. The so called "Empire Builder" green on the GN was of this nature. Most all of my Rivarossi/AHM cars have interiors, I add weight in the vestibules (the rectangular 'peel and stick' weights) since the cars are pretty light. Thanks Don! So some bolster modifications are in order (obviously easier to add a shim or washer than to shave away. If I add enought weight will they stay on the rails? Reply These are based on ATSF cars, but are fairly generic and could be used for many other railroads. A and B set, each 4 cars for the . 36" wheels were too large unless you wanted to completely remove the brake shoe hanger. Thecouplers are Am looking for the following Rivarossi UP yellow/gray/red cars:Modern Excursion A few weeks ago I posed a question re the current Rivarossi Heisler inHO scale. Free delivery for many products. The book Union Pacific Streamliners . The car floors were predrilled with holes for wiring the car for electrical pickup from the trucks for lighting, but the wheels were plastic.

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